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    主演:池昌旭  林允儿  宋允儿  赵成夏  李廷镇  金甲洙   

    导演:郭政焕 

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      THE K2描绘的是的热烈的爱着国家与同僚却被他们抛弃的警卫员,与连爱情都能作为复仇工具使用的有力大选候选人隐藏着的女儿之间的故事。这里还勾画了准第一夫人隐藏的欲望的故事。

     长篇影评

     1 ) 光明的背后是无尽的黑暗

    看完该剧,我只想表达这个世界已经腐朽了,而且是从上层开始堕落,慢慢地坍塌,人类文明的结局似乎并不会走向什么光明,更可能的是步入自我毁灭,每个物种都有其特定的生命周期,人类群体也挣脱不了世界规律的束缚。宗教、政治带给我们强大的精神动力的同时,也在腐朽和压榨着我们脆弱的个体。正如剧中约瑟夫·马斯克尔恶魔般的行径代表的或许仅仅是个体上的邪恶,但整个宗教、司法体系的包庇和纵容恰恰揭示了人类罪恶的本性。人的确具有善的一面,光明的一面,但相对应的,我们也不可否认我们自身所具有的黑暗面,而这个黑暗面在群体意识中尤为显现。《守护者》又是一部没有结局的纪录片,钦佩剧中“大妈”般的表现,她们勇敢、坚韧,在自己的晚年向上层发起的斗争,虽然任何结果最终都弥补不了她们少时所经历的伤害,但她们用行动逐渐揭露出事件的本质,同样感谢Netflix作为一个媒体平台,能为这群人述说这起故事。
           题外话,我并不觉得我的观点有何悲观,即使不够正能量,但我还能客观地看待生活中的光明和黑暗,但这个社会,更多存在着一批人,他们属于“厚黑”群体,或许他们才是这个腐朽社会的“原罪”,正是他们,操控纵容着“罪恶”行径,却反过来教育你“认命吧,世界就是这样的,你没办法改变”。
           《守护者》观影感受:先是散漫,然后窒息,最后恶心,不要跟我说正义从来不会缺席,只会迟到,迟到的正义是没有任何意义的,伤害已经产生,罪恶已经形成,后果已经无法挽回。

             灭世灰烬:这个世界需要彻底的毁灭,方能从灰烬中重生!

     2 ) 接下来的故事,由所有人继续来讲

    兴奋!就如第一次看Spotlight一样,为媒体自豪。但比看Spotlight更兴奋的是,感觉到自己被牵入其中,看Nerflix和各位Keepers的一盘大棋,对Nerflix尤生敬畏,此等胆识,再加上精良的制作和理性的描述和剪辑,你能再次感受到媒体行业一个被其“娱乐性”压制很久的品质--适时有力的扣问锤以及理性的宣传导向剑。

    去看了FB,看到了Gemma的Po文,原来的群组已经关闭,现在是一个由Netflix剧集为主导的官方群租,更多的人参与进来。

    剧集于2017年5月19日上线,到目前还没有10天,反响的涟漪在慢慢推开,我认为有些问题因时间距离太远,相关人逐渐离世可能终将成为秘密。但是,相关的人会寿终正寝,牵涉的机构和体制还不会,被这个机构和体制影响的人还存在在城市当中。

    他们的扣问微弱吗,就像投入深井的小石子听不到回应吗,那么等待好了,因为小石子现在在变大!

     3 ) 一位律师对影片的一些疑问(转)

    来自链接 //www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/some-questions-about-the-keepers_us_5a4835dde4b0df0de8b06adc

    Even though I highly recommend this documentary, I was perplexed by a few things. At the end of the series, we meet Charles Franz, the dentist. He is portrayed as a key figure because his mother lodged a complaint with the Catholic Church in Baltimore that Maskell had been abusing her son. The Church didn’t deny the allegations, but moved Maskell elsewhere—actually to Bishop Keough High School. This is important because the Church would later claim that it had no knowledge of Maskell’s criminal conduct until Jean came forward in 1992.

    The reason I’m perplexed is that in an earlier episode, we’re told that a “no-nonsense” Principal named Sister Marylita Friia told Maskell that he had just 15 minutes to pack up his things and get out of Bishop Keough in 1975. We’re told that Sister Friia took this action against Maskell because of numerous complaints from parents. Oddly, the film breezes right along and we never hear about this incident anymore. Why? Is Friia still alive? If so, why wasn’t she interviewed? What were the nature of the complaints against Maskell at that time? Isn’t getting kicked out of Keough the second disciplinary action against Maskell (after Franz’s family got Maskell removed from his school) by the Church? That makes the Church’s subsequent protestation of ignorance even weaker.

    Next, Bishop Malooly had an odd reply when the filmmakers confronted the Church about his meeting with Franz in the early 1990s. According to Franz, Malooly and Church lawyers were frightened by the prospect of Franz’s abuse coming to light and so offered to buy his silence with a new boat, which Franz quickly rejected. Malooly denies attempting to buy Franz’s silence but admits that he met with Franz for “counseling purposes.” But wait just a second—counseling for what Malooly? It seems that Malooly has conceded enough even without admitting to the boat gambit. The key point is that the Church was aware of Franz’s abuse (again in the early 1990s) and yet pretended that Jean was the first person with a complaint against Maskell.

    The film leaves viewers in the dark as to why Franz did not step forward when Jean’s lawsuit was all over the news. Had he come forward, the Church’s defense would have crumbled. Like other victims, he probably was not ready to have his experience reported on the news. That’s certainly understandable, but viewers are left guessing because the question was never asked, at least in the film.

    Another angle that was totally underdeveloped in the documentary was the fact that Maskell had a brother in the Baltimore Police Department. The film mentions this in passing 2-3 times but always breezes right along. That was very odd. Is Maskell’s brother alive? If so, was there any attempt to interview him? What rank did he attain before he retired or died? Several Baltimore cops were interviewed but no questions about Maskell’s brother on the force? That was peculiar.

    The film reports that the Church sent Maskell and other priests to a place called the Institute for Living. One of the counselors/therapists who worked there explains that the Church would tell the Institute a priest was suffering from “depression,” but that the priest would say he was sent there because he had sex with a minor and the Church was worried about the incident coming to light. The film is unclear about whether that priest was Maskell or another priest. In any event, this is another discrepancy with the Church’s claim that it had no knowledge of sex abuse by priests. This is because, as the film relates, the Institute declined to take on more patient-priests unless the Church would provide the real reasons behind the referral. Either the filmmakers didn’t press the Church on this point with written questions at the end, or they didn’t include it in the film for some reason.

    One of the infuriating aspects of the scandal is the incompetence or corruption found in the investigative authorities. Here are a few examples. First, Sharon May was the prosecutor in charge of the Sex Offender Unit. She appears in the film to defend her conduct while in office. Over and over again, she repeats her point that to prevail in court a prosecutor must have sufficient proof. But her defense is pathetic because the film shows that she was either unable or unwilling to do any investigative work to gather evidence and build a case against Maskell and others. Police found boxes and boxes of records that Maskell had buried in a cemetery and Sharon May essentially folds her arms and declares “That’s just not enough! I can’t go to court with that.” Pathetic. Law school students could have done much better than May.

    Second, it is also evident that there is much tension between the police working for Baltimore County and those working for Baltimore City. Both agencies were working on the murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik. Gary Childs, a cold case detective with the County is interviewed toward the end of the documentary and he has to stop the interview to call the City police about a letter from Cesnik that was received after she went missing. Childs seems to know a few things about the letter, but has never read its contents and is unsure who has the letter now. He seems to be getting the runaround from the City (i.e. perhaps something like, ‘we had the letter but it is no longer in the file,’ or whatever) but is unwilling to call his counterparts out on it.

    The police keep saying the investigations are “on-going” as if they’ve been working very hard but it is apparent that the police are mainly concerned about how the documentary is going to make them appear to the public. The Cesnik case is 50 years old and the police only recently exhumed the body of Maskell to gather his DNA to run tests against other evidence at the crime scene. What a coincidence that the police have exhumed the body just when the makers of “The Keepers” appear in Baltimore interviewing witnesses and asking lots of questions about the case!

    The FBI cultivates an image of being the “premier” investigative agency in the world, but that’s simply good public relations. As the documentary shows, the Bureau has completely failed the Malecki family. Joyce Malecki’s body was found near a military base so the FBI took the lead on the matter. County investigators backed off and deferred to the Bureau. Now there’s finger-pointing between the agencies: The FBI says it determined that Malecki’s murder had no connection to the military base and turned the matter over to the county. The county says the case was never surrendered by the Bureau so it took virtually no action on the murder case. Even after several decades, Bureau officials have declined to release some 4,000 pages of documents it has on the case. And, incredibly, the Bureau told the Malecki family that even though it has fingerprint and DNA evidence from the crime scene, it didn’t have enough staff and budget to run that evidence against existing databases. What?!

    Toward the end of the documentary, the dogged amateur sleuths, Gemma and Abbie, zero in on a few suspects who may have played a part in the murder of Cathy Cesnik. Brian Schmidt, now deceased, gave a recorded interview to Alan Horn where he divulged that he was around the men who did it when he was around 10-12 years old. Although the men tried to keep him distracted and in the dark about what they were up to, Brian is pretty confident that he pieced it all together afterwards. Brian identifies his Uncle Billy (Schmidt) and his friend “Skippy,” as having moved Cathy’s body from the apartment complex to the property near the family business. Brian identifies another man, his “Uncle Bobby,” who was tasked with keeping Brian distracted in the woods while the other men carried Cathy’s body from the car trunk to a spot in the woods.

    The odd thing is that the film breezes right along without following up on Brian’s mention of an “Uncle Bobby.” We hear much about Uncle Billy and his eventual suicide. We hear some stories about Skippy and how he seemed to disappear. Why not more about Uncle Bobby? What’s his full name? Is he still alive? Maskell introduced Jean to a man he called “Brother Bob.” And Brother Bob told Jean that he killed Cathy. An obvious question is whether Uncle Bobby is also Brother Bob. It is peculiar that the film doesn’t tell us more about all this. For example, Jean recalls some identifying marks on Brother Bob’s torso so one is left wondering whether anyone in the Schmidt family can confirm or dispel those marks about Uncle Bob.

    “The Keepers” is a terrific but heartbreaking documentary. Let’s hope that it generates more pressure on the obstinate law enforcement agencies to uncover the full and complete story.

     4 ) 乱评

    看完了......天啦,这是21世纪吗?直到现在还存在教会掌控权利控制政府的地方?! 案子都过去一代人了,地方还是那个地方,没有一点改变。想起Joyce哥哥说的,他们没有任何作为,也没有任何进展告知,他们希望仅有的几个关心这案子的人死去,然后就可以自然的无视案子了。 钱去哪儿了?为什么公民要养蛀虫啊,当Joyce哥哥询问他们为什么在可以用DNA去深排的时候而没有开展,回复是没钱?我整个惊呆!!命案不是关系众多吗,最应该投入的案子都被如此对待,可以想象,那地方站着掏口袋就被当做贩毒人员抓去蹲牢子有多合理了。 最后受害者出来提案 要求延长追诉时效,还有教会律师和什么教育部的人来反议,我也是再次无语,qswl,追诉时效不是为了调动当事人积极参与实现权利,从而更有效率更加全面的保障当事人的权利做出的吗?最根本最根本的就是为了保障当事人的权利啊。提反议案的人真就是自己没或者自己亲爱的人没成为当事人,站着说话不腰疼外+为了自己的利益,无视法条的本质无视当事人的诉求,吐了。 Cathy妹妹讲起专属于她们的回忆时真的很美好,我哭干的眼角都不经意皱起。还有Cathy妹妹的笑隔着屏幕且碎片切割下都仍有感染力。再次强化纯良等善良品质永存的观点。

    有人说当一个逝去人的过往点滴仍被他所亲爱的人记起,那他就没有消失。赞同的是现实来看确实是这样最安慰各方人事,不赞同的是对于那些爱着逝去之人的家人朋友来说,更希望他们还存在,而不是简单回归被各方人士安慰说的回忆,要知道回归依靠记忆的过程经历了太多。

    案子还没有破,地方还是那个地方,教会依旧是那个教会。不一样的是更多的勇士会出现,更多的人相信彼此,助力彼此。黑是白的变体,没有绝对的黑,也没有绝对的白,站对位,畏死抗争。

     5 ) 卷席我的只有寒彻骨髓的恐惧

    我以为我会惊讶,然而我没有。

    黑暗如潮水般涌来,卷席我的只有寒彻骨髓的恐惧。

    我看见那些不愿沉默,不愿被动接受所谓现实,不愿冷漠地遗忘的人们试图翻开层层冻土。她们不怨天尤人、不自怨自艾、不为恐惧和懦弱胁迫,抽丝剥茧地寻找着被迫尘封的记忆。经年累月地面对着不断涌现的过去,我无法想象她们都在承受着什么。

    发起组织的两位女士,本可甩手而去,不必去面对这世界本来的样子,她们是你我一般的普通人。但她们选择了留下,理智而冷静地追求着正义的本来面目。在让无数人讳莫如深的邪恶面前,她们用理性和智慧试图去驱散四十多年前那个夜晚刻骨的寒意。

    目前为止的诸多评论,大多集中在批判某个教会上,思考只停留在这浅浅的层面上,有时候太过天真不知道是好是坏。

    我甚至不能满怀希望地说出一切都会好起来。

    我们只是足够幸运而已,仅此而已。

    那些花朵般的,带着微笑的,受害者的脸庞不止一次的在片中出现,每当这时,我就不由自主地想起那些闻平权色变的人,他们叫嚣着给那些试图改变的勇者扣上自私自利的帽子,却充耳不闻浸透鲜血的历史,罔顾太多因习以为常而选择沉默酿就的悲剧。

    你们在期盼什么?

    你们在消费什么?

    你们在恐惧什么?

     6 ) 美国式的“官官相护”

    Keepers是守护秘密的意思。对拖沓的第一集印象很糟糕,讲1969年工业化城市巴尔的摩的一所天主教中学里(Keough),年轻善良的凯西修女失踪了,后来被发现杀死并遗弃在郊区,到今天凶手都没有绳之以法。

    巴尔的摩是一个工业化城市,有许多个第一,17世纪就引入了天主教,古巴导弹危机时候,人们都跪在地上去念玫瑰经。

    第二集开始我惊呆了,当年的中学生简开口了,说是修女知道她们被性侵的事实,想去警察局告发。罪魁就是Maskell神父指使手下干的(Bob)。

    在简的回忆下,性侵的细节让人震愕,

    从后面强奸,

    妇科检查,

    口交吞精并说这就是圣餐(忏悔室里的罪恶)。

    近五十年后的简已经是老妇女,回忆及此仍然抱头哭泣。

    1992年后一群被性侵的学生站出来要控告马斯克神父,但于近年一次上诉一样被教会“和谐”了。这就是美国式的“官官相护”。

    《史密斯先生去华盛顿》中泰勒的黑手可以控制一切,这在美国反复上演着。简是幸运的,有一个好老公理解她,支持她。而善良冤死的凯西,也永远被家人和学生们追思。

     7 ) Jean最后的那段话

    影片最后Jean的一段话:
    如果我能为自己或是为别人发声,这就是机会。
    这就像是一道小裂缝,我个人认为我正在做的事,也就是面对恐惧,正在接近那道裂缝,并说:
    “哈喽,你知道我们在这里吗?有人在那里吗?”
    仍然一片静默。但我们在聆听彼此了,因为我们都接近了那条裂缝。
    结果就是,我们会遇到彼此,在裂缝处相会。
    在你注意到之前,那股心声的强大压力,已然渗出那条裂缝,并且要粉碎它了。

     短评

    对Netflix心生敬畏

    6分钟前
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    11分钟前
    • frozenmoon
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    2015《制造杀人犯》2016《OJ.美国制造》2017,位置可以留给《守护者》现实和真相总是那么残酷,看似完美的美国的刑事司法制度,依然要受众多因素的左右如果按中国人的八大宽容,人都死了…那片中出现的人,很多都是傻子他们应该宽容么?看过片子你会有自己的答案。

    14分钟前
    • 老韩
    • 力荐

    Walao eh...! 看来宗教势力不仅掌握了社区和教育,还与政府和警察局同流合污啊。以教义和荣誉为名,绿教信徒忙着搞恐袭,天主教神父忙着性侵,宗教呐,还是世俗化点好...还有半夜看到阁楼里的那个修女假人模型吓哭了TAT

    16分钟前
    • byefelicia
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    最可怕的不是邪恶本身,而是包庇邪恶。后来观感只剩愤怒了,多少当事人到死都没有等来一个了结。时间久远回忆占篇幅,不然围绕天主教性侵儿童的故事应该能更深更紧凑,所以很可惜没有<制造杀人犯>达到的参与度和影响力

    21分钟前
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    24分钟前
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    剪辑多少是有点问题的,但真相实在太过沉重,当看到那些善良与邪恶、坚韧与推诿的对抗时,无法不被击中。

    25分钟前
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    “为什么你不告诉别人”“为什么你不让这一切停止”这是性侵受害者最最无力的语句。

    28分钟前
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    看到那个受害者突然崩溃大哭的时候,真不是滋味……祝你们这些伤害未成年人的人下地狱。

    33分钟前
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    第二集开始黑暗犹如黑洞深不见底,The Wire里的巴尔的摩越显真实,权力与信仰站在制高点压制,让人处在绝望的牢笼透不过气。为两位老奶奶鼓掌,很感动泪目,最后还是很痛心!

    38分钟前
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    非常压抑,非常伤心,也是一首勇敢的曲子!很感谢Netflix制作了这么一部非常好的documentary,对于这几个女性的精神,感到敬佩。同时对这个故事的阐述和戏剧张力,我也感到敬佩。一个好的故事没有受到辜负,也希望有一天真相可以大白

    42分钟前
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    比纽约灾星及辛普森讲述的视角更为客观,就案件而言,守护者全7集观看时有种喉咙被扼住的压抑感,少了一份猎奇和推理的心态,是逐渐增强的愤怒感,被宗教伪善皮囊所维护的极端恶魔,普通人面对信仰及权利扭曲后的无奈与痛苦,令人发指的谋杀,娈童,猥亵,欺骗,逃避,死不瞑目的死人和活人…

    43分钟前
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